RoamResearch embraces the chaos, Tana can get you out of the chaos. 😼

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Adding my thoughts on @Tana_inc, originally posted in the #RoamCN group • I underestimated Tana 😜 • @RoamResearch embraces the chaos, Tana can get you out of the chaos. 😼 twitter.com/Conaw/status/1299475748097384448

• If you like to keep information/data structured, you should be biased towards Tana, so Tana's goal feels more like trying to do teamwork, vs Notion twitter.com/Conaw/status/1577271409939578880?s=20&t=WY6yiCKREyiCx31w4H6DPA

• IMHO, Structure must come from Chaos and originate from Empty. 🤔 twitter.com/Conaw/status/1577495289799155712?s=20&t=WY6yiCKREyiCx31w4H6DPA

• For example, from a personal point of view, every day I will open Daily Notes (blank/empty) • 1. after using RR for a long time, it must produce templates, such as Morning Routines, Habit Tracking, Project Progress, etc. austinrileygray.com/blog/roam-research-for-daily-productivity

• 2. after some patterns are fixed, you will want to abstract a concept, create a new entity, such as Reading Notes, CRM, etc. • 3. you must have used attr:: the way to define some meta data in Roam, this is actually a kind of structured nateliason.com/blog/roam

• 4. so, Tana's most core optimization is to abstract this pattern into 'Supertag' • 5. where an ordinary block/note plus supertag, it becomes a structured data (I call it 'atom' well, can be organized to Molecules · ‎Organisms, ref Atomic Design) cortexfutura.com/supertag-basics-tana-fundamentals/

• 6. then based on these structured data, Tana can do N*many things: e.g. multi-view UIs (Different views) - currently supports Kanban, Tables, Lists, Tabs, etc., - image the future, to support Grid, Whiteboard, Mind Maps, even Sudoku, etc. are natural) app.tana.inc/?nodeid=7FuBeJOXBq

• 7. The cooler features: live query, command line, etc., you can quickly query these structured data through natural language. actually, this can also be considered the optimization of query in Roam app.tana.inc/?nodeid=zFyUfaQ8OR

• To sum up, 🙌 Roam's attr:: and query and even {{table, kanban, diagram}} have the prototype of a texting graph database. But they are like a defective product, not so usable, but only v0.1 version. twitter.com/Conaw/status/1239473187030593537

• I believe that in Conor's vision, not without wanting to make attr::, query, diagram and event other features better, but the development schedule is really pulling 😂 twitter.com/Conaw/status/1387497409102721026

• A strategy for scaling up, relying on the plugin mechanism, actually this is already presented a hundred #roamcult community. If there is no roam/js, roam/css hack way to polish the product, the #roamcult vibe would not have been able to get popular. twitter.com/Conaw/status/1365805362553573377

• But for the fanatics who are passionate about Roam optimization: - how can they be satisfied with a jigsaw 🧩 with roam/js or Roam Depot? - or how can they resist the temptation to recreate another 'Roam Research', with the added benefit of capital? twitter.com/Conaw/status/1545164977559834629

• Tana, in terms of functionality, does complement some of the unfinished functions of the Roam graph database, and can probably be called a complete v0.75, with a promising future. twitter.com/tana_inc/status/1575838024579002368?s=20&t=hdSWRx2heokHIYtTTGZkpw

• So, as a USER, you should ask yourself: 1. how often do you use and query in Roam? 2. and how many views of Notion's database do you use? • If you don't use these functions much, you probably can't use Tana even if it is well done. twitter.com/notionjoy/status/1530365039378837504

• Of course, it's okay to play around with the new toy. But remember the first trick to overcome #efficiency_addiction (or #[[Productivity Porn]] ): Deliberately distinguish between playing with toys and using tools. twitter.com/visualizevalue/status/1540848912822685697